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Fernando Maidana's avatar

Well said! 👏🏽

Edhead's avatar

Seriously, nice words I guess and what we all call a limited hangout. Carney has been at the heart of the decision making which created the '08 '09 financial crisis causing wide spread poverty and hardship. His job is to continue the empire and its eugenics and anti-humanism. This is nothing to get excited about.

Dick Dorroile's avatar

It's really funny how much this part of the speech got ignored in mainstream write-ups and blog posts. This is by far the most interesting and honest part of the speech, but most journalists and commentators either don't have any understanding of hegemony and imperialism, or understand it and are made too uncomfortable by these dynamics being stated openly.

I've stated the exact same dynamic many times, just as clearly, and received nothing but eyerolls and dismissive responses from centrists. They think that calling something imperialism or pointing out the hypocrisy of the "rules based order" is some kind of edgy teenager stuff. When Carney says it, I think they just malfunction or their eyes glaze over and they fully ignore it.

The Revolution Continues's avatar

"We knew the story of the international rules-based order was partially false, that the strongest would exempt themselves when convenient, that trade rules were enforced asymmetrically."

Carney is just as big a hypocrite as are all the leaders of the Western nations. But perhaps the fear of the fast approaching collapse of the petrodollar and the rise of BRICS is causing these sorts of "confessions". Nobody wants to be linked to a loser like the US.

Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

Yes, "given Canada's track record." I would believe Carney's address if he had the guts to mention tRump by name, or if he had the guts to say those things to his face, rather than grovelling at every visit to the White House. The American flag draped over Canada on tRump's map says i all, Canada has been a colony for 100 years, a guaranteed second American vote at the UN, and an enthusiastic enabler of NATO's advances against Russia.

ChatterX's avatar

Just look up who Freeland's grandfather was..

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After WW2 British government welcomed thousands of Ukrainian (Galicien) SS OUN/B members..

youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOo

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Between May and June 1947 the British government secretly transported 8,000 Ukrainian Nazi SS soldiers to Britain and Canada.

The "Rimini list" details their names and Ranks.

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youtube.com/watch?v=ASPoFzmDteg

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One of them was recently given a standing ovation in Canadian Parliament:

youtube.com/watch?v=vezCq5KcC5c

youtube.com/watch?v=ASPoFzmDteg

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Canada admits letting in 2,000 Ukrainian SS troopers, 1997:

jweekly.com/1997/02/07/canada-admits-letting-in-2-000-ukrainian-ss-troopers/

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Did you know that the reason Canadian government initially welcomed the Nazis after WW2 was to have them as "Strike-breakers" against the workers' Unions?

youtu.be/aTd8HovAG0I?t=305

Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

Great links, thank you! Yes, I know that the air-head Freeland had some family history and her love for whatever Ukraine is, has completed her life, which might literally be so if she is in Kyiv when the final blow arrives. Glad she's out of Canada, sparing us from another dork as PM.

ChatterX's avatar

True, tho if you check the links you'll see it goes well beyond Freeland..

Michael Allan's avatar

being a Canadian myself, I like the fact that Carney went to China and started mending the relationship, however I still wonder how far he is willing to go to prove that Canada has changed. Until Carney calls out the racists in the Canadian media for vilifying China as some authoritarian dictatorship that wants to rule the world, and starts to embrace the fact that the US not China is the real enemy, I will still have my doubts about him. I still think Canadian politicians see China as a threat, a threat to the system that we have here. China's system has been extremely successful and shows that the US system isn't the only option, but will Carney accept that? I doubt it. Carney's words are nice, but his actions will be the decider. Right now in Canada there is so much racism in the media, portraying countries like Iran, Venezuela and China, and Russia as dangerous states because they choose to fight back against western aggression. Canadian media portrays Iran as an authoritarian regime bent on keeping power through mass killing, yet what is happening on the ground in Iran is very different than what is being reported here. Russia is also vilified in our media for it's invasion of the Ukraine, even though it was the US and NATO that started that conflict. These facts are completely ignored in the Canadian media.

Raison d’etre's avatar

Rightfully torched by Canadian who was sabotaged by a false account running for leadership of the NDP, https://voicesfromsyria.com/fb-commentary-by-yves-engler-about-mark-carneys-wef-speech/

-the “rules based order” was itself a propaganda euphemism designed to substitute selective arbitrage for the rule of international law acronyms which were real like LOAC and IHL, (and was especially appropriated in Canada by the grand spawn of a Ukrainian Nazi propagandist/deputy prime minister who ran so many cabinet positions as to amount to de facto ruler of the country, y’know the one who got an SS two standing ovations in parliament https://www.thecanadafiles.com/articles/chrystia-freeland-canadas-fascist-queen and seized Cn bank accounts over the Freedom Convoy), and again rightfully diagnosed by a West Bank analyst in a Canadian outlet: https://www.globalresearch.ca/applause-limits-candor-davos/5913205

Martin's avatar

The “liberal international rules-based New World order” was always just imperialism with better marketing.

charles leone's avatar

Carney to Davos:

“I have a Greenland New Deal”.

Carrie Mazier's avatar

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/112582/holding-the-bullys-coat-by-linda-mcquaig/9780385672979

Thank you Ben, for shining a light on Canadian foreign policy. 🇨🇦Author Linda McQuaig, in her 2007 book,

Holding the Bully’s Coat: Canada and the U.S. Empire,

documented Canada’s OTHER turning point—— AWAY FROM what was our once sincere rhetoric as peace keeping diplomats TOWARDS a partnership with military industrialists. The 🇨🇦Military Industrial Complex is not a term we hear on 🇨🇦mainstream media, Canada became an arms-dealer in earnest. Canada’s weapons exports grew more than 89 per cent under Harper, is an article to follow up on McQuaig’s book, published Jan. 20th, 2016, in iPolitics.ca by Elizabeth Thompson.

Poppy's avatar

Well…this means Canada will be next on the list

However, I don’t believe anything out of those liars mouth. Nothing!

Camille Gedeon's avatar

Excellent discussion. Thank you.

One note: The USSR's critical role in decolonization was strangely omitted.

Robert Billyard's avatar

This is how you break the back of an empire and start the process to much better times for all.

Manny Garcia's avatar

Mid sized countries went along with the US when the US provided international leadership, rules based commerce, and military backup support to allies by upholding Commercial Sea lanes from attack. They did so without challenges to the structure.

Things have deteriorated in the US with a self centered and abusive style of government that does not look to partner with its long standing allies. Instead, our government applauds countries with dictator style leaders.

This is a sad state for our country.

DOT Marceo's avatar

Isn't Canada doing the same in the Israel matter? as are the others? Nice article.