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Robert Billyard's avatar

I find this discussion very interesting and thought provoking. I see the US as trapped in a situation as a declining power trapped where it can no longer project its power globally but has enough residual power to do a lot of damage-- which we are seeing now. Its proposed power projections are more and more pretensions. The Trump administration are the delusional die hards sifting through the ashes and will eventually be replaced by administrations willing to face the new world realities-- when and if this essential transition happens is the big big question?? The deep state and the vested interests running the country are so deeply embedded any positive transition may be impossible. As long as the US pursues its present course it is in the long run marginalizing itself as a pariah failed state. Asia's dramatic rise has shown that economic, not military prowess take the measure of the global structures. America's refusal to embrace 21st century realities appears its ultimate downfall. As Chalmers Johnson observed too long ago those US aircraft carriers are still trying to find the Japanese fleet of yore.

Ivan Belinsky's avatar

replaces class analysis with moral language—“mutual cooperation,” “shared development,” “South–South solidarity.”

But there is no Global South acting as a class. There are only capitalist states, each led by a ruling class pursuing its material interests.

Under capitalism, cooperation among states is impossible in principle. Capital competes, expands, and dominates. Whether it is the West, China, or India, all export capital, seek markets, secure resources, and protect their own bourgeoisie.

China’s relations with Africa and Latin America follow a clear imperialist logic:

capital export and debt-based leverage

infrastructure tied to Chinese firms

extraction of minerals and commodities

reinforcement of dependent, primary-export economies

alliances with comprador bourgeois regimes, not workers

This is unequal exchange, not mutual development.

Different from Western imperialism in style, not in class character.

A genuinely ML speech would openly name:

imperialism

unequal relations

class struggle

China’s own material interests

Instead, this speech offers bourgeois internationalism—state harmony without class struggle.

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