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Charles Kelly's avatar

Brilliant dialogue. Well prepared interview and clear responses. Thanks.

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Robert Billyard's avatar

If only the West could out grow its its infantile medieval degeneracy. East and West have so much to learn from each other.

Forever Wars are the death knell of the West. Reconciliations must define our future.

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Zachary Guadamour's avatar

And thank you Ben Norton for this very enlightening interview with the most intelligent and cautious {rpfessor Zhang WeiWei. Your background in economics is put to such good use in this interview. Thank you again.

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Eric Arthur Blair's avatar

THE END OF “THE END OF HISTORY”

My understanding of Chinese foreign and domestic policies:

Chinese foreign policy as stated by Xi and as proven in real life:

– Mutual respect

– Peaceful interactions

– Win-win trade agreements

Chinese domestic policy as proven IRL:

– Must BENEFIT THE MAJORITY – first priority was to lift 800 million people out of poverty, next is ongoing work to achieve moderate prosperity for all.

– At municipal level, grass roots DEMOCRACY to elect candidates to manage local issues

– MERITOCRACY – developed from the millenia old tradition of State examinations to select only the smartest administrators, today reflected in the requirements of professional qualifications (mainly scientists or engineers, not legal weasels) + good track record of real world success at municipal level, before being considered for higher governance.

– ACCOUNTABILITY. Corrupt officials, even at the highest levels, are dealt with ruthlessly and harshly by the law.

– SCIENTIFIC SOCIALISM as advocated by Marx and Engels – try various options, see what works then implement those more widely.

The Chinese have made many, many, many mistakes. The important thing is that they learned from them.

Some people call this “socialism with Chinese characteristics” which “may” not be applicable to other countries.

However I ask, why can it not and why should it not be applied elsewhere? Are these not universal aspirations and universally reasonable strategies?

OTOH the foreign and domestic policies practiced by the fascist USA and its fascist EuroZioJap poodles can without exaggeration be described (eg by General Smedly Butler) as violent thuggery and gangsterism of the most depraved, deceitful and despicable nature….

Summaries of defacto US foreign and domestic policies IRL https://www.geopoliticaleconomy.report/p/world-us-financial-colonialism-economist-michael-hudson/comment/143401412

https://www.geopoliticaleconomy.report/p/corporate-landlords-rent-michael-hudson/comment/145204453

Francis Farkyoullama was and is the quintessential useful idiot of the US establishment, always wrong about everything, always spouting blithering garbage in support of the parasitic neoliberal economic system… the very definition of a goddamn fool, yet a useful house-slave Uncle Tom tool of his plantation master.

The West accused China of “debt trap diplomacy”.

Every Western accusation is a confession

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu6kvDzLe1Q

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7thSignSoul's avatar

🚨WHY DOES CHINA REMAIN🚨

#1 IMPORTER of ZioNaziTERRORIST Goods

#2 EXPORTER Of Goods TO ZioNaziIsraHELL❓

➖WHY DOES CHINA FACILITATE the ZioNazi HOLOCAUST of GAZA WHILE CELEBRATING “The End of FASCISM” ❓❓❓

https://globaledge.msu.edu/countries/israel/tradestats

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Camille Gedeon's avatar

Excellent description/comparison. The results are clear to see.

Thank you, Ben, for the hard work and the details you put into your unparalleled reports, and above all, your personal integrity and your efforts to do good for our sick world.

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Joan Delur's avatar

This is a high level Interview, simple but is a lesson of civilization, education, valid modern reasonable arguments. brilliant. Peoples need more of this, real equilibrated reasoning exposing clear concepts, thank You. .

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Merekura's avatar

Fascinating. Our western system (media/ polity) is so anti china and I wonder if it’s bc if the masses learnt how successfully they govern for their ppl, we might revolt and demand something similar. We uphold our democracy as being superior to Chinas but we don’t actually get what we vote for whereas Chinas system allows them to pivot to meet their ppls needs. Great interview, Ben, thanks a heap. Wish this sort of content would go viral on legacy media. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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🔻Mohamed Salah Bchir🔻's avatar

I don't give a shit about china until they free Palestine 🇵🇸✊🏽

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Joan Delur's avatar

first, Palestine it's not China responsibility; second, China its doing more that you obviously see., third, there are more than 60 years genocide run on Palestina...what you dare mean? its China fault? to tell it with education, understand your anger but your pointing, its b. s. beyond the fact about Palestine genocide its pur shame for all the western civilization.

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7thSignSoul's avatar

🚨WHY DOES CHINA REMAIN🚨

#1 IMPORTER of ZioNaziTERRORIST Goods

#2 EXPORTER Of Goods TO ZioNaziIsraHELL❓

➖WHY DOES CHINA FACILITATE the ZioNazi HOLOCAUST of GAZA WHILE CELEBRATING “The End of FASCISM” ❓❓❓

https://globaledge.msu.edu/countries/israel/tradestats

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Joan Delur's avatar

If it's for this, all Earth in one way or another its connected with zionist capitals, them own US-UK, all them institutions, Rothschilds Internstional banking system, owning hubs with thowsands of Corporates, be serious and not silly. You know another world where live and commerce outside that? comic. But now China is Socialism, and world commerce its IMF FED Swift WTO stuff, ask them. Need more explanation or do you think you can arrive alone? , don't do the smart, your three points are things that Capitalism and its blobal structuress is allowing, not China. Don't ask silly things why another is respondible for whst US UK EUROPE does. Ask them to don't do it, not another ehy allow(on your mentallity) this hapen.

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Nuvaris Global's avatar

Brilliant interview, Ben, thank you.

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Martin Anantharaman's avatar

This interview of "prominent Chinese academic" Zhang Weiwei by Ben Norton is an enlightening insight into the "Chinese model" and my take-away, after stripping away all the misleading economic and sociopolitical jargon and propaganda is this:

- Present Chinese culture is a continuation of imperial Chinese culture in method as well as identity - the latter being of prime importance for "self-justification" of any culture revolving around an autocratic political system - so that "communist" China can now claim descendancy from ancient China - mainly to justify it's deeply chauvinist claim to cultural superiority and absolute power.

- The method is essentially a subversion of Confucianism to force a hierarchical rule-based governance on a people, supposedly "for the common good"- but the claim is no different from that of erstwhile Chinese emperors - and the method is the age-old one, relying on highly trained and indoctrinated bureaucracy - which the "communist party" gradually morphed into.

- Certainly the effectiveness and competence of such a system is evident, e.g. in eradication of base poverty and closing in on the Western empire - but glosses over all the satanic evil imported 1:1 from the West , e.g. competetion (=exploitation) and profit (=greed) as prime motive and large-scale industrialization (=dispossession and disempowerment) and capital-concentration (= capialist oligarchy, albeit here with limited political power - but that will come in due course) as mechanism. Was there anything else to human life? Chinese culture was always low on that - in contrast to the ANCIENT Indian culture (surviving in large parts till British colonization) - which they hate with the typical viseral hate of the culturally inferior - but nonetheless sent their students to and imported scholars from.

- The democracy-discussion is really good, inasmuch as Western-style democracy is a Trojan horse for brutal exploitation of one's own people and MORE SO, other people (to mollify one's own people) by a capitalist oligarchy (succeding the feudal oligarchy) - masked by ever more perfect indoctrination shamelessly leveragig religion, too. Indeed, the question is that of GOVERNANCE (good or bad) but as just pointed out the "good governance" China may claim is really pretty much a highly efficient implementation of core Western cultural goals (including hubristic nationalism, projection of miltary might, ourclassing competitors in growth, technologcy, etc.) - and true democracy was lost long ago in disempowering and dispossesing citizens of all they had in a pre-feudal/industrial (= human-centered = democratic) world.

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7thSignSoul's avatar

Can you share with us, Ben, the Typical Work Week / Work Year of Chinese Workers, across the various Chinese economic strata / income levels ❓

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7thSignSoul's avatar

🚨Ben, WHY DOES CHINA REMAIN🚨

#1 IMPORTER of ZioNaziTERRORIST Goods

#2 EXPORTER Of Goods TO ZioNaziIsraHELL❓

➖WHY DOES CHINA FACILITATE ZioNaziHOLOCAUST of GAZA While CELEBRATING “The End of FASCISM” ❓❓❓

https://globaledge.msu.edu/countries/israel/tradestats

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Joan Delur's avatar

again..🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 Call to all WEST, ALL OCCIDENT who are in silence since the 50's and 60's about GENOCIDE in Palestine, AGAIN China its not Palestine Zionist countru war issue, the responsible on that issue is occident ommissions since, who are who created the UN mess about the creation of another State? backed arming, finance USUK OTAN wars?, who armies went to help 7 Days war? 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 whom are in SILENCE since the 50's 60's about what hapen in Palestine and going YODAY against the UN resolutions ? China? 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨You makes me laugh. Call the RESPONSIBLES, NOT WHO IS NOT.

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7thSignSoul's avatar

Did you screen shot tge chart❓

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Joan Delur's avatar

Silly question, its due reitetated silly comments I received with this kind of emo more than one time, and due reitetated concepts that person sent to me in each comment. Be patient. All of us has one limit, I got mine.

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